“The Red Pill is, for all intents and purposes, what happens when the pick-up community decides that it hates women…” (1)
For anyone that doesn’t read the “manosphere” or associated Red-Pill blogs let me save you some trouble. The basic motto is this: Women are shit. Women should be treated like shit. It’s all about different ways to use and play women and implementing any form of psychological mind-f*ckery to get the upper hand in relationships and in the so-called “sexual marketplace.” They actually have various acronyms used to describe exactly how women are shit, how women have only a short-lived value in society that dries up at a very young age, how all women (especially American women) are all natural born sl*ts who only f*ck so-called “alpha” men and use the so-called “beta” men for resources and any sexually frustrated man with a victim mentality is welcome to leave all kind of vile comments about women. There’s nothing about being a better man or bettering society nor any talk about how men might actually be falling short of what they should be at all. It’s all about poking fun at women and advocating their worthlessness as anything other than a warm, wet hole.
I’ve read a lot of the crap over the years and a lot of what I have read is so ridiculous I can’t even take half of it seriously and actually wonder if a lot of the articles aren’t actually written just for comedic effect (For instance, Roosh V, notorious pick-up artist, has actually previously claimed at least one of his articles to be a joke after it caused public outrage before). The manosphere puts way more antagonism between the sexes than the most militant feminist advocates looking to hold their own in the corporate world with men ever could.
Don’t forget as well that everybody is rated on a certain scale and that determines how valuable they actually are to society and to the opposite sex (a total guy thing to be sure). So let’s say we have guy A and guy B. Guy A scores a bit higher on so-called “alpha” traits (according to their point system, and they’re all such geniuses). Obviously women will ALWAYS choose guy A over guy B because of his so-called “alpha traits.” Guy A is more “alpha” because he makes more money, has more “swag” and wears a better “poker face” so obviously he will get all the girls and have all the sex. His “sexual market value” is higher according to their little point system. And, of course, women divide men into two categories: the alpha f*cks and the beta bucks because we women always separate out between the men we wish to have sex with and the men we wish to be in a relationship with … [pause for dramatic effect]… Say whaaaat? That’s the kind of crap men do, not women. It seems as though they actually project their own desires and traits onto the opposite sex. Furthermore, what are we cavemen living in prehistoric times?
Of course a consistent theme among traditionalists and on this site is that men should provide for and protect their women (their wives, daughters, sisters and mothers) and this still stands. But it is something that a man does out of a sense of duty, honor, and, above all, love. It’s not something that’s done because his latest “thing” is so hot and he wants to splurge on her and show her off until he tires or her and wants to replace her.
Sure, no woman wants to be with some loser or bum any more than a man wants to be with or would be attracted to a slovenly masculinized woman that’s 50+ pounds overweight. Obviously if a guy has billions or millions in the bank then any number of 25 year-old bimbos (without values or morals) will come throwing themselves at him for the resources he has or to advance their position in society. He might be so old he’s about to croak over dead anytime but they probably don’t care about him any more than he does about them (and never mind that young men go after older women in the same way sometimes). As well, a 22 year-old woman might sleep with her 45 year-old married boss to promote herself. But would that not then mean that these so-called “alpha” men are the actual ones being used for what they can PROVIDE to these women (status validation, perks, promotions, money, fame/popularity) and perhaps the women who get with these so-called “beta” men (who probably in reality aren’t even “beta” at all) actually do so because they love them and are genuinely attracted to them? Maybe they should start using the term “alpha bucks, beta luv.”
Of course, the Red Pill position is that women f*ck all the “alpha” men in their youth and then get with the “beta” men once they hit “THE WALL” and have no other options left because no man but the most “beta” wants their dried-up, floppy, smelly v*ginas. Because obviously older women never attract men or remarry, have more kids or are genuinely happy in life or in relationships with men that love them. And they are never attractive to men. Never. Sexual market place; Remember the point system!
Are any of their views actually rooted in reality or is it just their own delusions and fantasies of grandeur that fuels their vitriol? They can’t seem to differentiate between fantasy and reality very well. Their views might go over well on an online forum, but in the end they are very far removed from reality. Do older women ever attract men? Yes. Does a man’s high status always win over the girl? No. We are not soulless creatures. We are human, with human conscience, human feelings, unique differences and circumstances. But they don’t take this into account.
For a woman sex and love generally go hand in hand together. Initially the man’s dominant traits might attract and get a woman’s attention just the same way as a woman’s beauty might initially catch a man’s eye. The asshole might have success in the short-term just the same way as the perfect “10” might have all the men surrounding her and drooling over her, but in the long-term there is so much more that comes into play. A woman might become interested or even fascinated by a man by his status and achievements, sure, but a woman generally always mixes fantasies of love and romance with sexual desire. That’s something these guys miss entirely. For them everything exists on a point scale and relationships are always a fight for dominance and control. There is no love. There is no humanity. There is no higher purpose in their eyes. Women are only objects to them and by treating women in such a way and viewing women in such a way they also render themselves irrelevant, because by treating women as nothing but disposable sex objects they imply that men have no value or worth to either society or women beyond their ability to impregnate females and fight with each other over territorial quests for dominance. They make themselves expendable.
I know personally I have never been attracted to men who had a lot of fame, power or money. This is probably because instinctively I knew that the long-term potential of such men was highly questionable and I was never willing to cheapen myself or sell my soul for 15 minutes of fame or a few dollars. When it comes down to it I have always had much more love for myself than to throw myself at some “high-status” man with so-called “options.” Only a woman with no self-love or a woman who was out for personal gain would allow herself to be used like that. Yes, I’ve had the option of doing such things in my life- of becoming involved sexually with men who could, however temporarily, bump up my status and provide me resources- but I never did. The reason is because my sexuality was worth more- I was worth more- and I have never been willing to be used or abused by some man as some kind of disposable sex object- the very thing the “manosphere” seeks to degrade women down to.
I do always find it interesting whenever their Red Pill teachings don’t pan out in reality. Older women are dried up old hags to you? Oh, so why are so few of you with someone significantly younger than you then..?(2) We don’t always get what we want, do we? (Perhaps they just over-estimate their value a wee bit then?) Plenty of men have tried out Red Pill techniques on their wives, girlfriends and women that they hoped to get with/sleep with only to have it backfire and ruin the relationship entirely. My favorite was this one incidence I read on a forum somewhere (I’ll probably never find it again and don’t remember where I was when I read it) where the guy tried the “advice” to pull out of his girlfriend in the middle of sex and pretend like he just lost interest all of a sudden. The idea is that it was, supposedly, supposed to tilt things in his favor and make her desire him 10x more and then they would have crazy, wild sex 5x more often. To his surprise (yes he was actually surprised it didn’t work, poor guy) it backfired on him, and, instead of her desiring him more, the girlfriend instead refused to even speak to him for something like two weeks. Similar stories abound all over the “manosphere.” Furthermore, much of the “manosphere” teachings seem to be nothing more than child’s play. Most of the teachings are about getting the upper hand and turning the “sexual marketplace” back in their favor so they can use women as they please without any kind of commitment or responsibility on their part.
It’s abusive, irresponsible and doesn’t always work, but hey, why not take the Red Pill anyways despite the side-effects?
**Screenshots captured from this ROK article.